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Five Towns' Lone Jazz Club Up for Sale

Owner of Harvey’s Lounge in Cedarhurst is seeking a buyer or a partner.

Due to declining attendance, the owner of the former Harvey’s Lounge closed down his business about a month ago and is now seeking a buyer for the Cedarhurst jazz club.

“At one point, we would have at least 100 people in there on any given night, but it’s hard in this neighborhood if you’re not kosher,” Harvey Sobler said of the lounge, located at 477 Chestnut St. “It’s like trying to sell snow blowers in Miami.”

Many locals agree, including Mikel Katoanov, owner of Mikel’s Dry Cleaners, which is down the block from the lounge. (Another business on the street, La Viola, recently closed down as well.)

“The problem is that most of the people that live in this neighborhood are Jewish, and they would want food or a lounge that is kosher," he said, "so they would not go to a place like that.”

Other local merchants and residents also said that a jazz club in that neighborhood wasn’t a good fit, and they were under the impression that it was some kind of coffee shop or a pub, unaware that its specialty was hosting live musical acts and open mic nights.

“People around here don’t even know what jazz is,” said another store owner on Chestnut Street, who preferred not to give his name. “Someone who tries to open a jazz club in the Five Towns, especially in Cedarhurst, is losing their mind. It’s never going to work.”

Sobler is hoping to get $170,000 for the business and possibly a takeover of his lease. He said the place is equipped with a $25,000 sound system, six televisions, new air conditioning, accordion windows out front, a spacious dining room, separate barroom and a full basement with a walk-in box. There’s also quite a bit of parking, with head-in spots in front of the store and ample parking alongside the railroad tracks.

“I put a lot of money into the place,” he said. “It’s a very modern built-out place. Nothing is more than four years old. It’s really a no-brainer for someone who’s looking to open a restaurant, because they would have to put nothing into the place.”

Previously, the business was called the Chestnut Street Grill, which Sobler also owned. Four years ago, he decided to make a change, turning the place into a music venue/bar/restaurant and renaming it Harvey’s Lounge.

In the past year, Sobler took in the owner of Cedarhurst Café as a managing partner to help rejuvenate the establishment, even switching the business to that name. But the situation didn’t work out. 

“Harvey is a really nice guy, with a lot of friends and a big following,” said Rino DeGennaro, owner of La Terrazza, on the same block. “But he’s a very busy man, and maybe he didn’t have enough time for the place. And bringing in the owner from the Cedarhurst Café did not help. But it was a nice place. Me and my friends would go there after dinner sometimes. The bands were very good.”

But there’s at least one person who is pleased with the closure. One of the tenants of an apartment building next door said she won’t miss the drunk customers who would often congregate on the street after leaving the lounge.

Sobler is now in the process of trying to find a buyer on his own, rather than use a realtor. However, if the right person came along, he would consider taking in a partner and again relaunch the business. He said that his landlord is on board, whatever he decides.

“It would have to be the right situation and someone with the right expertise,” he said. “And it would have to be an equity working partner.”

Although the lounge is technically closed, Sobler plans to occasionally present special music events to help bring in a little revenue until the place is sold. He expects to get the word out through email, Facebook and newspaper ads.

“Harvey has always been a music lover, so he wanted to open a place with live music,” said Heather Schirmar, an employee of Harvey’s Place, a Cedarhurst hair salon that Sobel has owned for 44 years. “They had great live professional musicians. There was nothing else like it in the Five Towns.”

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Bojames May 17, 2013 at 08:15 pm
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Chris Albanese May 17, 2013 at 04:05 pm
It's not just the teachers... As a parent of 2 going on 3 school aged children, I'm amazed at howRead More much our free public schools cost. We get a supply list every year of things like crayons and pencils which I get, although I don't see why it HAS to be crayola. The red crayon in the box from the 99 cents store is just as red as the one in the $4 box from someplace else. Also, I don't understand why I need to send in 4 boxes of tissues, paper towels, wipes, etc per child. When I was a kid, I remember keeping a little pack of kleenex in my desk for when I needed it. I'm sure the district can buy in bulk at half the cost to us and store it in the schools until needed. Also, as far as the teachers go, I'm not sure if they do it on LI, but when I was a SBM in the NYC DOE, we had what was called Teacher's Choice which was a check for $250 that every teacher would get on March 15 (?) to help pay for the classroom supplies they bought throughout the year. It always amazed me how many of the "supplies" were purchased on 03/14. I had the pleasure of denying some of the more bogus expenses. Also, anything they would spend above and beyond their reimbursement is now tax deductible I believe. My wife, sister, cousin and many friends were and some still are classroom teachers. I know firsthand how the good ones give much more than they get in their check(s). The trick is to weed out the ones that are only in it for the money, benefits and summers off and not the kids.
Shirley Hanein Lane May 19, 2013 at 05:50 pm
lilly, i just created a group on Facebook (Hewlett-Woodmere District 14 Budget Discussion) forRead More residents of district 14 to share and question. Maybe someone on the board will look at it. Please tell your friends. A copy of the budget is uploaded and can be reviewed. I believe residents should make informed decisions. Read it and see what jumps out at you and looks good, fishy, or just normal.
lilly May 19, 2013 at 03:36 pm
thanks Shirley- we have to keep posting to vote NO for the budget- I try to go to meetings and it isRead More ridiculous to hear how no one comes to the table with ideas of how NOT to SPEND our money! If there were only more people that would attend and stand up and speak up maybe it would change.
Shirley Hanein Lane May 19, 2013 at 02:39 pm
Lilly, you are so correct that there are so many houses for sale and stores for rent. Who wants toRead More move to a district that looks like a ghost town? And let's not forget about the homes that were affected by Hurricane Sandy? People are still rebuilding. Download the budget from the district website and go over it item by item. You will see that the increases are mainly in textbooks and retirement, bus matrons, and BOCES, not "for the Kids" as the lawn signs say. District 14 is so used to getting what they ask for because no one bothers to read the budget. Many residents have drunk the Kool-Aid and would never question the decisions of the administrators or the School Board. And NOT ONE of the candidates mentions FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY! They seem to think that residents are an endless fount of money, when is that going to change?!?!?
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paul May 11, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Way to go Harvey! Happy Birthday and keep up the good work... Others depend on you....
Donna Galinsky April 25, 2013 at 09:07 pm
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