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Parking, Building Plans Revealed for Proposed Medical Facility

Attorney for developer says traffic would be worse in mornings with a school.

The lawyer for Simone Development Companies, whose $12.5 million for Number Six School was accepted by the Lawrence School Board, vowed that the developer’s proposed facility “won’t be a burden to the community.”

“The goal is to make the building nice and more attractive to neighbors and have the best doctors,” said Benjamin Weinstock, an attorney for Simone, which has five of these kinds of facilities running already.

Simone plans to leave the former Woodmere school building as is, but close off the entrance on Church Street and have the main door on the side facing Peninsula Boulevard and Branch Boulevard. Landscaping and buffering will also be done to make it more appealing, with the lights facing inward. The playground would be relocated and enhanced. Total renovations would cost $20 million.

(None of the property is in Cedarhurst, said Weinstock, who is also deputy mayor of the village.)

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The current ball fields will be paved over to make way for a 450-spot parking lot. Weinstock said the facility would need about 300 spots. Only right turns would be permitted on Peninsula.

In terms of traffic, Weinstock said about 150 vehicles are anticipated to arrive every hour, with 150 exiting. A high school would see 1,500 cars arrive and leave in the morning, with more staggered traffic during dismissal time, according to Weinstock. The required parking lot for the high school would also only leave about a half acre of ball fields, he claimed.

The facility would be open seven days a week, with a 7:30 a.m. opening on weekdays for labs, with doctors arriving at 8:30 a.m. The facility would close between 5:30 and 6 p.m. Weekend hours are from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.

If the community approves the referendum on March 20, Simone will have to get approval from the Town of Hempstead on a site plan and zoning change. That step would take about eight months to a year. Construction would take another year.

The Lawrence School District will host a town hall meeting on Simone’s proposal on Feb. 27, where the project’s architect, engineers, traffic experts, principals and others will speak.

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  • Highest Bid for No. 6 School Turned Down by Board Committee
Anessa Cohen February 22, 2013 at 01:44 PM
A real joke! - it will NOT bring any local jobs to the Five Towns - why? Do you think these doctors are going to fire their existing support staff and then hire new ones here all in the name of new hiring - please do not be so naive!!
Anessa Cohen February 22, 2013 at 01:48 PM
how about all the possible pedestrian injuries and fatalities that may happen from increased traffic flow because Simone is building this facility in a residential area with lots of families who need to walk and cross streets?
Anessa Cohen February 22, 2013 at 01:50 PM
you cannot use most of those fields for all the little league games that the kids have every week. Where are the children going to replace their little league game fields - in the Medical Facility parking lot?
inwood queens Resident February 22, 2013 at 03:43 PM
Anessa where have they been playing since the fields closed when the school closed? Are we talking about orginized sports or just a bunch of kids getting together for pick up games? The new yeshivas / schools in inwood on doughty boulevard and in Far Rockaway off seagirt boulevard both have athletic fields actually the inwood school is preparing a new area to the left of the property for a sports field.
inwood queens Resident February 22, 2013 at 04:02 PM
If having the fields available is such a big concern maybe we should give the bid from Blumenfeld Developement another look from what gather they want to use the property for something similar to Life Time Athletics in syosset.
inwood queens Resident February 22, 2013 at 04:11 PM
I agree Kosher lunches shouldn't be a problem. But if you are suggesting some type of religious worship taking place on public school grounds I don't think this will happen.
john February 23, 2013 at 03:36 PM
TO Inwood Queens Resident; I am not suggesting at all to mix religious study in public schools as its not legally possible. Some will use the switch to public schools as a sword to get private school tuition decreased but at the end of he day one should not be creating hardship on another at the hands of the childs education to line anothers pockets?..Statistics show a much more pronounced overall education in the long run through public schooling.. Back to # 6 school, its important to spread the word to make sure that no existing trees are removed from the property. Lets look at the works of Framk Loyd Wright; the man respected nature and built everything around nature..I thinks its more important to save a tree than to provide a parking spot !! Tree's are our creatures of G-d! :)
inwood queens Resident February 23, 2013 at 05:36 PM
Looks like they plan on planting a few hundred trees around the parking lot.
john February 24, 2013 at 09:02 PM
i had meant the existing trees that have been their..that are healthy and alive..
john February 24, 2013 at 09:12 PM
TO 5TOWNS RES: I can understand your thoughts and feelings on providing alternate school for your children to avoid what public schools over the years have failed to do...In regards to the free lover and marijuana pressure scoitey has inflicted on middle and senior public schoolers.. But i must say that it existes EVERYWHERE..You can walk down central avenue nlate on a saturday nite and smell marijuana being smoked in parking lots, at bar/ bat mitzvahs, weddings, etc..ts everywhere even inn private school; catholic or jewish. Their is only such much we can instill in our childeren; adolesence and peer pressure, wether private or public will have a grasp at some point; not for all but for alot...Their are schoolgrounds here; public ones that we are all paying taxes for..And there golden schools!! Lawrence schools are priceless.. Their fight to preserve and enhance them are for good reasons...Over 80 years of excellence!!! There is something to be said for that..Maybe our school board needs to be replaced, even if they are new orthodox board members..a board that truly looks after the fiscal responsibility of its own community..Shuls for Public Schools !
mary February 26, 2013 at 03:20 AM
Anessa, Yes it will absolutely bring jobs!!!!! They will not be bringing custodial, security and their entire support staff, including clerical and medical staff. This is a fact!!! Did you know that a majority of the current Mt. Sinai staff comes from New Jersey?? I guess you didn't, did you know that many of the employees will not even be asked to come to the Woodmere facility? Naive, I think not, just informed! Many new jobs will be brought to our community.
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 06:53 PM
I think Anessa Cohen is the naive one. Of course there will be new jobs. Many doctors will be using this facility as a second office. Those practices in Cedarhurst and Lawrence, where there is virtually NO PARKING and the rents are very high, the association with Mount Sinai would be a plus for them - and a plus for us. We need an expanded tax base Anessa. The real estate bubble BURST in 2008, so there went the property values. Take a look at the East Ramapo School District and tell me how their property values have increased LOLOL - they didn't! Matter of fact, anyone who looks at your postings may question YOUR credibility as a real estate agent who is biased. Of course this will bring jobs, income and Simone MANAGES properties after the sale - so they are in it for the long run. They manage beautiful, busy properties.
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 06:54 PM
One way or another, it will be private property. You think for a minute YOUR CHILDREN will be able to go onto private property even if there are ball fields? No! North Woodmere Park is right up the road.
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 06:58 PM
Again, Anessa Cohen is wrong! Private property, whatever it may be, does not guarantee fields for public use! There are lots of fields around - North Woodmere NEVER has all their fields in use at one time. There are crosswalks and traffic signals at the intersection. Hmmm.... and you like to sell real estate? I'd think differently about using you with all of your fearmongering comments!
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 06:59 PM
John, have you ever known Mount Sinai to invest in a failure? Me neither.
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 07:00 PM
It's not that they "can not." It's that they "will not." If they do, the Kosher Nostra comes after them. Nu?
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 07:04 PM
I'm sure this can be brought up and Simone would be agreeable. There needs to be a curb cut for a turning lane into the facility.
Carmela Soprano March 03, 2013 at 07:10 PM
The school issue to accommodate frum children was posed a few years ago by Mr. Douglas from Woodmeren. The Kosher Nostra put ads in the papers and preached to their choir about it being against the teachings of the tenets of the Jewish faith to do so. I went to Cheder and survived quite well. It's all about controlled the dollars to keep the Ravs in business. It's a bunch of rubbish. It's all about segregation, not about community.
inwood queens Resident March 05, 2013 at 10:18 PM
The Community Coaliion of the Five Towns is having a Meeting Tonight Just in case you didn't Know.. 5 March 2013 Save the date and tell friends to join our next information session at the Goldstein Residence, 6 Keewaydin Road in Lawrence, Thursday, March 7 at 8:00 p.m.
Frank Spingolo March 06, 2013 at 03:19 AM
Hey Inwood resident, do you work from ben Weinstock, you seem to have a dog in this fight? you posted this event, which is No Vote event. are you planning to crash a party that you are not welcome at? I'm sure the homeowner will have you removed if you misbehave.
inwood queens Resident March 06, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Its a information session as per the web site a public web site so the public is invited. I post this event so anyone who has questions for the school board members that will attend they can go. Here's a link to the site read it for yourself http://cc5t.org/index.html And my Dog in this fight is the public school system and the honest tax payers. You don't know me so don't make assumptions of my character or motives. As for going to the meeting the state representative that has been reading these boards will need the location and time of the meetings that have been held in secret until now.
Johnnie Raymond March 06, 2013 at 02:35 PM
Hey Inwood Queen, We know your work for/ or are ben weinstock, and are just trying to cause trouble to save your dying bid for the number six school. I don't work for the vote no group, but its obvious, this is a meeting in a private home, not a public meeting for you to rabble rouse at. I'm sure if this meeting was at my house, I would have security screening out people like you that are there just to cause trouble. The wisest thing you could do is stay home and not cause a scene, it will just hurt your cause.
inwood queens Resident March 07, 2013 at 07:32 PM
Community Coalition of the five towns has canceled the meeting Latest News 6 March 2013 DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER, OUR LAWRENCE INFO SESSION FOR THURSDAY NIGHT HAS BEEN CANCELLED.
Anessa Cohen March 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Carmela - I guess you haven't heard then that after meeting in town with 60 local doctors, after Simone pitched their option to them - all the doctors declined to move there since Simone's operation demands that the doctors give up their other practices if they sign up with them. Also at the Town meeting, Simone's reps advised us all that there will only be 1-1/2 employees per doctor and all other employees will be automated from another location. How is this going to bring jobs here? BTW all the doctors they hire will be ones who presently have no practice
Carmela Soprano March 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Anessa Cohen: Doctors who are choking over the rents/lack of parking where they currently are will migrate with their existing patients. I know two doctors who are ready to go already. There will be x-ray technicians, nurses, medical assistants and laboratory workers needed on-site. Remote functions include billing and transcription/dictation. Scheduling could possibly be done off-site. Lightly traveled Branch Blvd. can get a second curb cut and a turning lane.
Anessa Cohen March 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM
actually that is not true about the private property. The last private school that made a bid offered to give the school district an easement in writing guaranteeing them perpetual use of those play fields. It would have been part of the contract - I believe 4 acres total. One of the board members mentioned it at one of the meetings
Anessa Cohen March 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM
you cannot use the valley stream fields for little league and for the other leagues. all the fields are packed with leagues on the weekends
Anessa Cohen March 11, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Carmela - the last bid the school district had included an easement on at least 4 acres of play fields for use of the community - in contract and in writing. I do not think you are correct about North Woodmere since the play fields are loaded with leagues on the weekend. With all those crosswalks and traffic signals there are regular horrible accidents at those intersections from drivers jumping the lights and losing control - just look at the police blotters
Anessa Cohen March 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM
you know it does not have to be a private school. It could be the Peninsula Library or more housing on the part next to the play fields that would go right on the tax rolls and maintain the residential atmosphere of the neighborhood,
Anessa Cohen March 11, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Organized sports - leagues from the entire community both public and religious have been playing on the no 6 school fields regularly - even after the schools closed, that part never changed and all the children use the playground 7 days a week

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