Reminder: Medical Developer to Answer Community Questions Tonight

Simone representatives to be on hand at Lawrence Schools town hall meeting.

Staff members of the medical developer whose $12.5 million bid for the Number Six School was accepted by the Lawrence Board of Education will be on hand Wednesday night to answer questions about its proposed medical facility.

The project’s architect, engineers, traffic experts, principals and others will address the public at Lawrence Middle School at 7 p.m.

Members of the Community Coalition of the Five Towns, a group that formed to oppose the project, are expected to be in attendance as well.

For all the information that has been released about the project thus far, check out Patch's previous stories:

  • Lawrence School Board Accepts Developer's Bid for No. 6 School
  • Medical Developer Plans to Have 60 Doctors at No. 6 Site
  • Local Doctors to Play into Proposed Mt. Sinai Facility
  • Highest Bid for No. 6 School Turned Down by Board Committee
inwood queens Resident March 04, 2013 at 08:28 PM
It's location is perfect and let me tell you something you should be ashamed of your self for being any part of blocking this project. After receiving a Racist Vote No mailer today anyone that is associated with The Community Coalition of The Five Towns should be hang there heads in shame. Their obvious use of a non Caucasian in the blurred image with OUR CHILDREN'S SAFETY IS AT STAKE. Has to be one of the most racist things I have ever seen.
RP March 04, 2013 at 09:23 PM
I have not received any racist mailers - If someone did intentionally send one that had racism in its message, then that is shameful. Since I did not see what you refer to, I have no further comment. Still, to blame everyone for the actions of one person (who may or may not have been guilty of racism) is uncalled for. Should you blame every dog owner if just one refuses to do the right thing and scoop? In fact, is it not possible the sender of the Vote No mailer had no such intention? Identify who sent it, please, before jumping to conclusions and making accusations. Keep the debate civil, please. Further, you claim the location is 'perfect.' I believe there are many, many residents of the 5T who do not believe it is perfect, I among them. I think it is flawed, inconsiderate, intrusive, harmful. In short, "imperfect."
RP March 04, 2013 at 09:55 PM
There's an old joke - Three people are sentenced to be executed by guillotine for some terrible offense. (My own personal guess is that it was for double parking on Central Avenue.) Anyway, the first person is strapped to the guillotine and the blade drops but gets stuck halfway. That person is pardoned because it would be too cruel to do that again. The second person is strapped down and the blade is released but also gets stuck halfway down. Once again the person is pardoned because it would be too cruel to put someone through that twice. The third person is led to the guillotine - looks up and says, "I think I see what the problem is." If everyone who thinks they see the problem is that the 5Ts needs a medical facility - operated by Mt. Sinai and whose doctors are under contract to Mt. Sinai - then you may be fixing the problem and cutting off your heads. Once again I intend to vote NO. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
inwood queens Resident March 04, 2013 at 10:10 PM
I blame only The Community Coalition of the Five Towns they mailed this blurred image of a obviously non caucasian leering at children. The portray patients ,delivery men and workers as threats to our children. The location is centrized in the five towns perfect you are lucky you have the chance to vote against it when they build huge schools on what once home in inwood we had no vote. We didn't want it but someone has to have it. How's this let's trade you get school on doughty we will take the medical center. And don't make a comparison between picking up dog crap and racism your 3rd grade education is showing.
RP March 04, 2013 at 10:30 PM
You are saying the Community Coalition of the Five Towns is racist? Or did I misunderstand what you wrote? I think you missed the point in my use of the analogy between a pooper scooper and the mailer. It was to point out to you that I thought it was unfair to blame many people for the actions of one. But why is it necessary for personal slurs? I have replied to your comments with respect...and will continue to do so. By the way - I did see the mailer after all. I personally do not see any racism in there at all. Those blurred images do not look like anything that one could call racist. But you are entitled to your opinion. I will let the Community Coalition of the Five Towns respond if they wish. They certainly don't need me to defend them.
john March 04, 2013 at 10:30 PM
The school could have been leased for the last few years its been closed with some money coming in..mineola leased a school building to a private jewish school and its smooth sailing...?... Why not lawrence ? The school board has embaraseed the face of the orthodox jew...shame on you...great neck schools offer kosher lunches...I don't get it ? Ravs control the lawrence schools by forcing their own kind, MANY who can't afford or want to send children to private education??? Who is putting the burdon on who ? These are spiritual loving men of G-d whu are suppose to watch out and guide us, lead us...what kind of example is being set for our future children..they read this, view it on blogs, let's wake up and see what reality is here..we need this school building for our own; if the board won't provide it to us or sell it to us then vote YES and put in back on the tax rolls...
Kathryn Mennella March 04, 2013 at 10:33 PM
But it is broke...in many ways......Nassau County Is broke....pun intended
Kathryn Mennella March 04, 2013 at 10:42 PM
There is medical waste in all medical facilities....I am sure that isn't a worry...state of the art.....tossing the trash in the street...doubtful.....these are inane points....sounds like clutching at straws....as I have said before....the building will be on the tax roll...to me...that is a very important issue.....lets think......District 15 needs the money....the building being sold for 13 million and going back on the tax roll.....State Of The Art Medical Facility......plenty of parking...job opportunities for many...sounds good to me....sometimes folks...you have to give to get
Kathryn Mennella March 04, 2013 at 10:52 PM
If only
Stephen J. Bronner March 04, 2013 at 11:36 PM
In all likelihood the district didn't lease the school building because they didn't want to pay for the repairs it requires. The building is currently filled with mold.
Dan March 05, 2013 at 12:46 AM
I have been watching this debate and I have a few comments: 1) everyone keeps saying Mt Sinai, but it's not, it's West Med, if it was under Mt Sinai, a non-profit, we would not have that facility on the tax roles. 2) as to the statement that it won't affect home values in the area, that is a mistake. While now people will be willing to buy there at this point, once the facility is there, and it's zoned for commercial business, no one is going to want to buy there and the values will drop like a stone. And to the person who mentioned the Yeshiva on Doughty, that area was commercial already, it didn't alter anything. The folks who live there bought despite the fact that it was commercial. 3) had you been to the most recent meeting, you would have heard that most of the local doctors they approached to be on this have refused, who do they plan on bringing in to replace them? Also, I don't know what "jobs" they will be making when they plan on automating all customer service aspects and having the phones ring at a secondary location 3) they did a traffic feasibility study on the middle of winter, and even then they said it would add 40 more cars per hour. I don't think a Yeshiva or JCC belong there either, but I don't trust that this Medical Center will be the salvation that many are hoping for. In our eagerness for the money, we could trap ourselves in a terrible situation.
RP March 05, 2013 at 01:35 AM
Good reply Dan - you analyzed the situation very well. I believe you are correct in every point except one. It WILL be operated by Mt. Sinai. It states that explicitly and very clearly on the large size mailer I have in front of me. It has the Mount Sinai and Simone logos (symbols) on it. In the text, it also states very clearly, "...operated by Mount Sinai...." Mount Sinai is mentioned several times throughout this mailer. (You know, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.) I don't see West Med anywhere on it. So in the unlikely event $imone's application is approved, (I think 5 Towners are too smart for that) - will it be operated by Mt. Sinai and-or $imone, will it be non-profit? An IRS designated non-profit - or just a NY State non-profit. Or something else? That requires clarification. I also believe I read somewhere that physicians and specialists will be recruited by, and under contract to, Mount Sinai. I could be wrong about that point. If you haven't already, I recommend you read the recent cover story in Time Magazine, A Bitter Pill. Quite applicable to this discussion.
inwood queens Resident March 05, 2013 at 01:39 AM
Dan it is Mt Sinai watch your mail you will get a vote yes mailer soon if you live in the district it will be put on tax rolls over 1 million a year with 70% going to school district. revenues to improve schools and provide special services to local yeshivas. As for home values they can't go any lower where it is being placed and to be honest would you buy a home where Sandy water got so deep rescue boats left propeller marks on the roofs of cars. As for Doughty Blvd. the school built there replaced 4 existing home it was never commercial property at least not in the last 200 years my relatives have lived in Inwood. Traffic go take a ride down Rockaway Turnpike during rush hour your will observer all the traffic is caused by signal light timing and poor driving skills people blocking intersections and not giving other the right of way. Sorry to tell you this but it's going to be built get use to it and make the best of it. I bet that statement pissed you off now you know how we felt in Inwood.
Kathryn Mennella March 05, 2013 at 02:15 AM
Don't think it was commercial property.....and the point I was trying to make was that we...the inwood community didn't have th opportunity to oppose it....there was no meeting....they sold the houses...and the next we knew a Yeshiva went up....another building not on the tax roll....now the athletic field is going up...didnT hear about that till after the fact either
inwood queens Resident March 05, 2013 at 02:20 AM
RP I must apologize to you I am truly sorry you have every right to give your thoughts on the subjects discussed on these boards. You are obviously a very intelegent person and have every rite to your own opinion. But when I recieved my mail today and the first thing you see on a flyer is a blurry image of a Man wearing baggy pants and a Hoodie with our children's safety is at stake I was infuriated. Thoughts of the Travon Martin raced thru my mind. I would just like to know what would be said if the image on the flyer was a blurry image of a man in a black hat and long black coat?
Local Resident March 05, 2013 at 02:46 AM
I have a question that needs to be answered - The proponents of the Simone project proclaim that school district homeowners will enjoy anywhere between a $30 and $100 annual real estate tax savings after the facility is constructed. Is this accurate? Notwithstanding the addition of this property to the commercial assessment roll, isn't there a New York State law that restricts the amount of annual growth in the tax levies for each of the four classes of property that comprise the Nassau County assessment roll. Therefore, won't the primary beneficiaries of real estate tax relief be each of the existing commercial property owners in the school district rather than homeowners. Does anyone with knowledge of "class shares" know whether this is correct?
Kathryn Mennella March 05, 2013 at 02:49 AM
Lets not lose sight of the issue here...race and religion should not be involved....to me this is money issue.....Nassau County could use the revenue.......race and religion has NOTHING to do with it...do not make it so.....
RP March 05, 2013 at 03:53 AM
No apologies necessary. You were carried away by your passion and zeal for your cause. We do not agree on this particular subject. But I thank you for being an adult and returning your comment to me. I admire you.
RP March 05, 2013 at 03:55 AM
I am with Ms. Mennella - I do not agree with her vote, but race and religion should be kept out of the conversation. Well said Kathryn.
Dov Herman March 05, 2013 at 04:32 AM
The Mega Medical Center will not be built on the site of the Number Six School. I told Stephen and was quoted in the Patch the very night of the board vote " The Fight Has Just Begun" Well I think you all see me as a man of my word by now. Trust me when I tell you " Mr Simone -The Mega Medical Center Will Not Be Built On The Number Six! "
inwood queens Resident March 05, 2013 at 05:23 AM
I understand some are upset its down the block from your houses. But this property isnt what will drive down your property values its people who fail to maintain their properties like some of your neighbors on Arbuckle that let their home fall apart and run businesses out of their homes. At least with a medical center you will have some one to complain to about poor property conditions.
john March 05, 2013 at 10:21 AM
Dov please explain how you are so sure? ..Do you have plans to run for a school board seat ? Do yopu have any clue how their are over 1000 emails sent to Governor Cuomo about what is going on down here or how hundreds of public school parents are about to board buses and head to Albany to bring attention to the Lawrence School District ?..Support Shuls For PubliC Schools because the community may be in for a big suprise from the state..
Dan March 05, 2013 at 02:57 PM
RP - it West Med will be operating under the auspices of Mt Sinai, if Mt Sinai owned it it would be off the tax rolls as Mt Sinai is a non-profit, they can put Mt Sinai down on the mailers. Kathryn - I am aware that the school was built on homes, I was referring to the fact that that area was already zoned commercially. And while I understand your frustration that you weren't given an option as to whether or not it opened there (because those were privately-owned homes), you can't begrudge those who don't want a medical center (and the negative aspects it brings) in their backyards from voting against it. Also, Kathrryn and inwood queens resident, to constantly state that you got stuck with it in Inwood so now so do they, is a fairly petty statement. If your main reason for voting for something that could potentially affect this community negatively is because you feel it's their turn simply takes away from the debate.
Kathryn Mennella March 05, 2013 at 03:35 PM
Sorry if it came off that way...but I truly believe this will be a positive thing for the community....not trying to STICK anything to anyone....that's just not my style....I am for this because I believe we need it...nothing more...nothing less
inwood queens Resident March 05, 2013 at 04:49 PM
Dan lets get one thing straight I'm not voting yes to stick it to anyone I truly believe we need this medical center. First Ive been to the ER with my back out 2 months ago and had to wait 6 hours in pain before I was seen. Our Hospitals are over crowded we need this facility to take some of the burden. Second we need the tax revenue as I have stated repeatedly in the past. VOTE YES march 20th
Thomas Cassone March 06, 2013 at 02:05 AM
Mr. Inwood, I live inwood as well, and my vote is no to traffic, no to simone who wants to rip off our community, and not to loosing space. this town is so crowded, traffic is terrible, I have to drive 20 minutes down pennisula just to get to my house, I had enough. saving $35 a year will not cover that. and you know what, simone can just sell this building to a hospital, most of which are nonprofit by the way, and then they are off the tax rolls. simone is not fooling me, I'm voting NO march 20th.
tlauricelli March 07, 2013 at 10:57 PM
urgent care center already started on peninsula in hewlett we dont need another
inwood queens Resident March 07, 2013 at 11:27 PM
Thats not urgent care its a clinic being built
tlauricelli March 07, 2013 at 11:30 PM
whatever keep it OOUUUTTT!!!!
inwood queens Resident March 08, 2013 at 12:01 AM
What we really should have at this location is a FEMA facility. What do you think it will only cost us $35 a year in our taxes and everyone benefits from having it if we have another disaster?


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